Request to NASA's Johnson Space Center for communications with Canadian filmmaker Matt Johnson and other docs

Brett Carollo filed this request with the Johnson Space Center - NASA of the United States of America.
Tracking #

24-00983-F-JSC

Due June 28, 2024
Est. Completion None
Status
Awaiting Response

Communications

From: Brett Carollo

To Whom It May Concern:

Pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act, I hereby request the following records:

Any communications between Canadian filmmaker Matt Johnson (born October 5, 1985, in Toronto, Canada) and the Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center (JSC), between the years 2015 and 2017, during which time Mr. Johnson reportedly filmed portions of his film "Operation Avalanche" (2016) inside of JSC, claiming he was making a documentary. Since it stands to reason that, even if he lied his way into the facility by claiming to be making a documentary, he would still have to obtain some sort of permission in order to film in restricted locations. Therefore, I additionally request any documentation produced as a result of Mr. Johnson's visit to JSC to film scenes for "Operation Avalanche."

I am the Director of Research Operations at a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization called The Decoding Culture Foundation. These documents will be used for public education and research purposes. I therefore request a waiver of all fees that may otherwise apply. Attached is a document with organization letterhead confirming my position, as well as the organization's 501(c)(3) application and approval form.

The requested documents will be made available to the general public, and this request is not being made for commercial purposes.

In the event that there are fees, I would be grateful if you would inform me of the total charges in advance of fulfilling my request. I would prefer the request filled electronically, by e-mail attachment if available or CD-ROM if not.

Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this matter. I look forward to receiving your response to this request within 20 business days, as the statute requires.

Sincerely,

Brett Carollo

From:

Dear Brett Carollo,

Your request was received by NASA Public Access Link. The request was assigned tracking #24-00983-F-JSC. You seek the following:

Any communications between Canadian filmmaker Matt Johnson (born October 5, 1985, in Toronto, Canada) and the Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center (JSC), between the years 2015 and 2017, during which time Mr. Johnson reportedly filmed portions of his film "Operation Avalanche" (2016) inside of JSC, claiming he was making a documentary. Since it stands to reason that, even if he lied his way into the facility by claiming to be making a documentary, he would still have to obtain some sort of permission in order to film in restricted locations. Therefore, I additionally request any documentation produced as a result of Mr. Johnson's visit to JSC to film scenes for "Operation Avalanche." (Date Range for Record Search: From 1/1/2015 To 12/31/2017)

Please log into your account and review your submission. The application address is https://pal.hq.nasa.gov/.

Thank you,
NASA Public Access Link

From:

Dear Brett Carollo,

The status of your request #24-00983-F-JSC has been updated to the following status 'Received'. To log into the NASA Public Access Link click on the Application URL below.

https://pal.hq.nasa.gov/

Sincerely,
NASA Public Access Link

From: Johnson Space Center - NASA

Dear Mr. Carollo,

NASA needs clarification in order to conduct a reasonable search for this request.

Also, while requesters are free to use MuckRock's services to submit requests, they need to ensure that requests are properly submitted. We have just now received this request since it was misdirected. The Public Access Link is the best way to ensure FOIA requests are promptly received.

Respectfully,

Robert

From: Brett Carollo

Dear Robert,

This message pertains to request 24-00983-F-JSC.

I am sorry that the request was originally misdirected. I have alerted MuckRock to the error.

To clarify my request:

I am asking the Johnson Space Center, first, to search all of its communications offices or related offices for communications with Matt Johnson. Second, I am requesting that they search for any records relating to permissions that may have been granted to Mr. Johnson when he visited JSC, in the communications offices or related offices where such records may be kept.

I certainly do not feel this request is overly broad.

Sincerely,

Brett Carollo

From: Johnson Space Center - NASA

Dear Mr. Carollo,

Thank you for your email.

I wanted to let provide you some background regarding my interpretation of your request so you can better understand NASA’s actions taken upon it. NASA must treat every request, and its FOIA program generally, fairly in accordance with its regulations and the FOIA statute as if could be contested. We turn to FOIA case law whenever a matter is ambiguous and we must decide how we will treat a request. A well settled aspect of FOIA, and many other areas of law, is that every word of a statute or declaration (which FOIA request descriptions and other evidence provided by requesters are) has ordinary meaning and should be given that effect, unless they are defined in the relevant statute. To be more specific to your request, I do not necessarily think it is overly-broad as most “any and all” requests are. Rather the use of the word “any” is too nonspecific. If I were to apply the ordinary meaning of the word “any” to your request, then NASA could simply provide you with one record of its choosing and arguably have performed its statutory diligence upon your request. I think we both can agree that is not the outcome you are seeking. Arguably, the subject matter as you stated in your initial request description is not too broad for NASA to be able to task a reasonable search that can be calculated to capture “any and all” records as long as you limited the number of offices or programs you would like us to search.

Also, while I know that NARA guidance uses broad terms such as “communications” and “correspondence” to describe records management, and that FOIA requesters have at times been required to phrase their requests using that type of terminology; I do not find it necessary, and find that it is preferable for requesters to use terms they would be more likely to use conversationally such as “emails”, “letters”, and “instant messages” to describe exactly what are seeking. I suggest that because NASA has different retention schedules and custodians for emails, letters, etc., depending sometimes upon the recipient or the creator. A requester desiring both emails and letters may need to agree to a higher fee than one just asking for email so the enumeration does materially affect processing.

At this time, again based solely upon precedent and guidelines, the criteria to grant a fee waiver is not satisfied. You may provide additional info and we can reconsider that determination, or you may appeal that action.

Respectfully,

Robert

From: Brett Carollo

Dear Robert,

This message pertains to request 24-00983-F-JSC.

Would it be possible to proceed with the FOIA request and leave the fee waiver request for later? If the fees are reasonable (under a few hundred dollars), the DCF would likely be willing to pay them in the event the waiver is ultimately rejected. So it makes sense, from our perspective, to proceed with hte request.

Thanks as well for the FOIA background information. Please change the opening word of my request ("Any") to read "All."

Sincerely,

Brett Carollo

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